First game of Dungeon Twister ( 2 players)

•January 9, 2010 • Leave a Comment

 

Played my first game of Dungeon Twister this week with Andy my gaming buddy – its a quick game which takes about 2 hours to play – Dungeon Twister  Prison mk 2 can be played solo as well  as 2 players and that is the version I have . 

Currently i have only played the 2 player version and am plannign to play a solo game later this month – Have fully read the rules and it seems a good as you have to play the system and the Artifiacial intellenge looks advanced with lots of diffrent options for the Game.

I have posted below a quick description of the game but this  is only a 2player game not solo.

Dungeon Twister is a tactical fantasy game by Christophe Boelinger, published by Asmodee Editions.  

Players: 2
Time: 45-90 minutes
Difficulty: 4 (of 10)

  

  

The Components

  

Dungeon Twister comes with a set of very pretty components:  

  • 8 rooms
  • 2 starting lines
  • 2 quick reference screens
  • many portculis markers
  • 28 tokens  for 2 player play – 68 for solo
  • 10 action chits
  • 16 cardboard figures and 16 full unpainted plastic figures
  • 32 cards fro 2 player – 56 for solo play
  • 1 rulebook
  • 1 rulebook for solo play

  

Map Pieces: The eight square rooms and the two starting lines together form the Dungeon Twister map. Each is printed on glossy, medium-thick cardboard. These maps show basic features of a dungeon: walls, portculises, pits, and rotation gears. The starting lines just sit at one of the edges of the dungeon to mark where you come on (and go off) the map.  

The art on these boards–and really the art throughout this game–is entirely gorgeous. The maps are done in bright, vibrant, and unusual colors that really make them stand out. They also have a sort of organic look to them that’s really nice looking. As I said, this is really true for the art & the graphic design throughout the game; this is one of those games that when I opened it up, I just stared at it, because it was so pretty.  

Quick Reference Screens: Full-color player screens in the two-player colors. They’re printed on the same medium-heavy cardboard as the map which makes them amazingly sturdy for a player screen. The main purpose of these is to hide your setup, but they also contain helpful reminders about what every character and every object does.  

Cardboard Chits: Each player gets 14 circular tokens in his color (orange or blue), eight of them depicting characters and six of them depicting items. He also gets five square action chits in his color which he can (helpfully) use to count off actions as he takes him. Finally, there are some number of portculises, used to mark the onboard portculisses as either broken or open. All of these chits are printed on medium-light cardboard.  

The various player chits are all nice enough. They feature most of the important information about each piece (movement and strength for characters, and some important reminders for the items). I wish they had a bit more (such as reminders on what the Treasure, Armor, and Sword do, and the additional characters icons included on the stand-up characters), but the missing information isn’t going to be an issue once you’ve played the game a bit.  

The portculis pieces are the only items in the game that I don’t actually consider attractive. I find the symbols for the broken and open portculises very hard to read; what they’re trying to show really doesn’t make sense, though I can distinguish between the two.  

Plastic  Figures: Standup figures for each of those characters in the 2 player colors. They show the full (and attractive) artwork for each character, the strength and movement numbers, and also use a couple of icons to remind you of special powers, which is a nice touch.  

Cards: Two player decks of 16 cards each, with the cards printed half-size on medium-light cardstock. This includes 4 action cards, 3 jump cards, and 9 combat cards, all of which are easy to distinguish and use.  

Rulebook: A 16-page full color, glossy rulebook. The rules are a bit hard to read in a couple of places, but generally do the job. They also contain some great pictorial examples which do a good job of explaining tough concepts.The overall organization of the rules is quite well done and includes a bunch of optional rules including “handicap” rules, a great glossary with descriptions of every character, item, and space, and a summary on the back. Overall, these are quite well done.  

solo rulebook

all the rules you need for solo play – with detailed visual pictures which are laid out well and easy to follow.

On the whole component quality of Dungeon Twister is pretty average with some pieces not meeting expectations (the stand-up characters) and some pieces exceeding them (the screens). However the game has above average utility: some real work has been done to make the game more playable based on its components. In addition the artwork and graphic design are all entirely beautiful. On the whole I’ve let the game eke in a “5” out of “5” for Style rating based primarily on that beauty.  

The Gameplay

  

The object of Dungeon Twister is to kill your opponent’s characters and get your own out of the dungeon.  

Setup: The game begins with the eight Dungeon Twister boards being shuffled and laid face-down in a 4×2 grid. Each player then places his starting line at one of the ends of the map.  

Next each player selects four of his eight characters and puts them face-down on his starting line; they’re his initial force.  

Finally players take turns placing their remaining four characters and their six objects face-down on the map boards. These are items and peoples which will be activated later in the game. There’s a limit to how many chits can be put on any board: two on the outermost boards and three on the innermost. In the end the 20 chits (10 per player) will thus be allocated relatively evenly among the eight boards.  

Characters. These are the heart of the game, because you win victory points by either getting your characters out of the dungeon or killing those belonging to your opponents. Each player has the same set of 8 characters, which each have a special power:  

  • Wizard. Levitates. Can move over pits or past enemies.
  • Mekanork. Can rotate boards in either direction.
  • Goblin. No special powers, but worth 2 Victory Points (VPs) if he escapes.
  • Warrior. Can break portcullises for 1 Action Point (AP).
  • Wall-Walker. Can move through a wall for 1 AP.
  • Cleric.
  • Troll. Regenerates himself for 1 AP.
  • Thief. Can move over pits, and also can hold them for other characters by standing on them. Can also open or close a portcullis for 1 AP.

  

Each character also has a Speed movement rating (from 2 for the slow troll to 5 for the speedy thief) and a Strength combat rating (from 1 for the Wizard, Goblin, and Wall-Walker to 4 for the troll).  

  

Objects. Each player also has 6 items which are placed on the board, but can later be recovered for your use. You can use your opponent’s items too, if you happen to grab them. The items are:  

  • Treasure. Worth 1 VP if you carry it out of the dungeon.
  • Speed Potion. Costs 1 AP to use, then that character gets +4 AP. One use.
  • Rope. Allows a character to move over pits or else can be left on a pit to allow free movement.
  • Fireball Wand. Costs 1 AP to use, and may only be used by the Wizard, but kills any one character in Line of Sight. One use.
  • Sword. Gives +1 Strength in combat if you’re attacking.
  • Armor. Gives +1 Strength in combat if you’re defending.

  

The Map. The map is also a pretty major element in the game. As noted, it’s a 4×2 grid of rooms, each of which is 5×5 spaces. The maps are mostly open spaces with walls. Walls are often aligned in between maps in such a way that you can’t easily move from one to the other. There are a few special features on maps:  

  • Pits. May only be crossed by the Wizard, the Thief, or someone with a rope. Alternatively a rope or a Thief may be left on a pit to allow free crossing.
  • Portcullis. Barriers between squares that can only be opened by a Thief or a Warrior.
  • Rotation Gears. A character on this space can twist the room either 90 degrees clockwise, or counterclockwise, as shown on the map, for 1 AP. In addition all maps come in color-coded pairs, and if you’re standing on one of the pair you can also rotate the linked room. The Mekanork can twist either room in either direction if he’s at the gear, regardless of the depicted arrows.

  

Order of Play: On a turn a player gets to spend one of his four action cards, which gives him either 2, 3, 4, or 5 Action Points. Once a player has spent one of his cards, it can’t be spent again until all of his cards have been used.  

With APs, a player can have various face-up, revealed chracters take various actions. (Those face-down characters placed at the beginning of the game can’t do anything until their room is revealed.) A player could choose to spend all of his actions on one character, split them up between characters, or some combination thereof. The same character could take different actions or the same action multiple times. The possible uses for action points are:  

  • Reveal a Room
  • Rotate a Room
  • Move One Character
  • Initiate Combat
  • Use a Character’s Special Ability
  • Use an Object
  • Jump

  

Each action costs 1 AP for one use. A general rule for the game is that you have to complete an action before you start a new one. Thus if, for example, a character does a partial movement, then opens a portculis, his movement action is now done, even though he lost some of his move points, because he began a new action (opening the portculis).  

Reveal a Room. A character may flip up a face-down room that he has line of sight on. The active player then places all characters that were on the room and all of his opponent’s items. His opponent then places all of his items.  

Rotate a Room. A character may rotate his room or the other similarly colored room one-quarter turn in the appropriate direction if he is standing on the rotation gear.  

Move One Character. A character may move up to his movement in spaces. He can’t move over pits or through closed portculises or through unwounded enemy characters. He can’t stop in a space with an enemy character or where he’d increase the total object count in that space to more than two.  

A character can freely pick up and drop items or wounded characters during his turn, but may never carry more than one object at a time.  

Initiate Combat. A character may initiate combat if he is adjacent to an enemy. All characters in the same clump who are adjacent to at least one enemy become involved in the combat. Each player now adds up the combat value of his unwounded characters in the conflict and then secretly adds a combat card (from +0 to +6). Whomever has the higher total wins. All unwounded losing characters are wounded, and wounded losing characters are killed. (Once a character is wounded it can’t move or initiate any actions; it needs the cleric to heal it unless it’s the troll in which case it can heal itself. A wounded character can also be carried around, but doesn’t score any VPs if he’s carried out of the dungeon.)  

Combat cards are lost once used, except for that +0, so they have to be used carefully.  

A character who was wounded on this turn can’t be attacked again in the same turn.  

Use a Character’s Special Ability. Some characters such as the Cleric, Thief, Wall Walker, and Warrior have special abilities that cost an AP to use.  

Use an Object. Some objects, such as the fireball wand and speed potion cost an AP to use.  

Jump. Each player has three Jump cards. One may be expended for one AP to get a character over a pit.  

Winning the Game: The game ends when a player earns 5 Victory Points. They can be earned as follows:  

  • 1 VP per own character that escapes by crossing the dungeon and stepping onto the opponent’s starting line.
  • 1 VP per enemy character that you killed.
  • +1 VP if the goblin escapes.
  • +1VP if someone escapes with a treasure chest.

  

Relationships to Other Games

  

I’ve seen a lot of people compare Dungeon Twister to Tom Jolly’s Wiz War. Granted, they are both fantasy board games, involving moving characters around a dungeon made up of 5×5 boards. However, I think the similarity is largely a superficial one.  

Wiz War is a very American game, full of “take that” gameplay, and huge gobs of randomness thanks to card draws. Besides that it’s got only one character to move around, and his powers are based on card draws, not anything intrinsic.  

Conversely, I’d describe Dungeon Twister as a tactical puzzle game. Yes, there is a good thematic basis, but on a round-by-round basis the gameplay really comes down to figuring out how to do something clever (often killing an opponent’s character or getting one of your own out of the way) with a limited set of actions. As such, I think it’s a lot closer in flavor to other action-point based tactical games such as Hansa, Mexica, or Dos Rios, where you’re likewise trying to puzzle out the best move for each turn.  

The Game Design

  

As already mentioned Dungeon Twister is a deeply tactical game. However, it also has a fair allocation of good strategy as well. Unlike a lot of tactical games, you can set yourself up for future moves, and think about long term issues, not just how to minimax an individual turn. It’s also a relatively speedy tactical game. The full game can last 1-1.5 hours, a fair amount more than the 45 minutes quoted on the box, but the game never seems to suffer from too much downtime, because you’ve only got one opponent, and you’re always interested in what he’s doing. Beyond that it’s got good theming, that really helps make the game come alive. It’s also got some interesting balance, as the more VPs you get by exiting the dungeon, the weaker your on-board position becomes, and thus the more you have to struggle for those last few.  

On the downside, I’d say that Dungeon Twister is slightly complex; by this I largely mean that there are a fair number of fiddly rules that can be a bit of a pain for a first-time player to keep track of, though by a second game I felt very confident with them. I also think that the game can be a little hard on a first time player, as a bad initial setup can really mess up your game.  

Before I close out, one final comment on design-related advertising copy. A lot is made about the fact that there’s no luck in this game, and that’s not really true. Granted, there are no dice and no card draws, but the orientation & placement of the boards can definitely give one player an advantage and another a disadvatage. Likewise there’s a chaotic factor related to who places which pieces on which squares, forming a sort of blind bidding, which isn’t exactly random but isn’t exactly strategic either. I’d agree that the luck factor is relatively low in this game, and I think it’s particularly so for a French design, which tend to use dice more often than most European designs, but don’t go in expecting an entirely luck-free event. (And to be clear, I’m entirely happy with the low randomness level, but I did want to discuss the issue of “luck” since I’ve seen it mentioned a lot.)  

Overall, I’ll have to admit that Dungeon Twister combines some of my favorite elements in a game, including fantasy theming and tactical/puzzle-solving gameplay. However, i also think that it does a superb job of it. This is, bar none, my favorite tactical game that I’ve played in years. I think it remains more interesting and constantly surprising than almost anything else in the genre, and my only real regret is that it only supports two players. (There’s a 3/4 player supplement already out in France, and it’ll be interesting to see if that manages to avoid the downtime issues that often sneak into 3+ player tactical games.) As a result Dungeon Twister earns a full “5” out of “5” Substance rating for me.  

Conclusion

  

Dungeon Twister is one of the best games released this year. Its sharp tactical play, combined with its colorful fantasy setting, results in a game that just begs for play and replay. If you enjoy tactical games at all, and if you sometimes get to play two-player games, you should rush out and purchase this basic set.

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1st SS Panzerkompanie

•October 6, 2009 • Leave a Comment

Below is a scanned copy of my Crib sheet for my 1st SS Panzercompany  which I use for easy reference when I Play.

This list is set up for a tank heavy army with minimal infantry  and 3no 8.8Cm guns which do slow down the approaching enemy which gives me time to push on with the tiger and Panzers VI.

This list is by no means watertight so any suggestions would be welcomed.

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Vassal it only bloody worked..

•October 3, 2009 • 1 Comment

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Well I would like to report Armasheddon had its first FREE online game of Car Wars using Vassal – if you are interested in how this is achieved follow my earlier link Here

 

After a message left to my earlier post regarding looking for players I was contacted by Martin , and after a few emails and conversations we both decided to give it a go , the set up was as follows.

  • Skype  account set up for both players ( free )so we could communicate vocaly  – this seemed a easier then typing in the chat window
  • Vassal set up on both computers and updated to newish version
  • Car War deluxe module installed on both computers
  • We both had a copy of the Car wars rule book in front of us so we could clarify the rules and help speed things up
  • Two hours of our time dedicated to get this thing to work

As this was our first game together we both decided to just play one car each so we could get used to the dynamics of Vassal and work out the best way to get everything to work .

The Vassal map we played  on was the Buffalo Municipal  which is a standard round arena with 6no entrances  scattered around this arena was 8no concrete pillars which gave some sort of cover.

the cars we decided to only go for one each and to both have the same – we went for a standard pre made car from the AADA Vehicle guide Voloume 2 which was called the Yellow Jacket as car description below

Yellow jacket

nice-little-yellow-carwhen the laser factory announced that it would produce a division 10 duelling vehicle – and a subcompact at that ! incorporating a $8000 laser ,the duelling community was skeptical.As finally released in 2033 the Yellow Jacket is a triumph of design , not a dollar or a ounce is wasted. its light armour ( with none top or bottom )  means the Yellow Jacket driver must win quickly or die. But the potent laser and the Yellow Jackets handling commands respect – enough so , in fact that this model is often seen out side of the arena A single good shot anywhere would take it out , but a foe who fails to get that shot in QUICKLY may not live to rectify the error.

 Yellow Jacket data sheet

  • subcompact
  • Hvy chassis
  • small power plant
  • hvy suspension
  • 4HD tires
  • laser front
  • Armour F 5  R 5  L 4  B5  T0  U0
  • acceleration 5
  • HC 3
  • 2400Ibs in weight
  • $9.998 cost total

The first game

well after a few minor problems with Skype and vassal we did actually get to play a whole game using the cars above , the first game took about 1 hour to play and I would say most of that time was getting used to Vassal and it numerous options  ,but Im sure Martin would agree once all that was sorted the game ran very well   with Martin   coming out the outright winner  as my car was left a smouldering wreak after turn 5   after a direct hit from Laser which ripped through my front facing armour – power supply and left my driver unconscious with third degree burns .

Overall a good nights fun and we have arranged to play again , but this time designing our own cars up to a value of $50.000  which will hopefully produce a longer more tactical game .

If you would like to join in on this second game  or indeed any game just contact me through this  web site and we can arrange ,the only limitation is we play at 8:00 GMT  Mid Week and you would need to set up a Skype account ( takes 5mins and its free )

Lee.

Blood Bowl Pitch

•September 3, 2009 • 6 Comments

This is post no 1 on my latest project for Armasheddon  – which is a full size 6mmMDF Blood Bowl playing field and all the bits that come with it like the dugouts – score boards ETC.

The reason Im making a gameboard is because I really like the game but in my opinion the only thing that lets Blood Bowl the game down  is the supplied cardboard playing field as it does not add much to the dynamics of the game as it looks a little old fashioned and flat the colours are a little to bright and shinny not like a real pitch at all.

Size and Discription

The board is made out of standard 6mm MDF with a green paint finish with flocking and extras added  ( skulls  – blood puddles ETC  ) to liven up the board.I have kept the size the same so all the throwing Templates ETC  that are  supplied with the basic game all still work with this board this  also makes it simpler as all the rules / distances / measurments  still work  as intended and in turn this  allows for the board to be played at competitions and  tournaments down at my local gaming cub ( Essex Warhounds )

currently I am only working on the pitch once this has been completed I will work on the dug outs and score boards and turn makers , Im thinking of using Hurst moulds for the dug out – but will update as I progress.

Playing Board  phase 1 of the project  ( getting  the basic shape and colour )

The first thing I needed to do was to cut down some 6mm MDF ( medium density fiber board ) to playing size I had to allow for the full sizt pitch and have enough space around the edges for the dug outs and score boards , after careful thought and measurements i have decided to go for a board that is 1200mm * 1500mm

once the board is cut I found the center of the board and marked out 15 squares * 26 Squares  all at 33mm *33mm  as photo below.P1010003

The next bit is tricky and I must admit I have a advantage because by trade Im a  qualified carpenter.

To get the effect I wanted to show on my board was each square to be clearly marked but not to much as it takes the effect away of the board and the models which are playing on it.To get this effect i  used a standard woodworking router with a 3mm V router bit and went for a plunge depth of 2.5mm  this has given the effect below.

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By using the router and a straight edge you can then slowly work your way along all the lines until finally you will eventually   complete  the whole board like so ( this took me about 3 hours over two nights )

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that’s it for this post – Post two will be a update on the painting  and effects I have used for the board .

Lee.

My Flames of War German SS army in detail Sd Kfz 7/1 ( 2.0 CM ) Anti Aircraft Section

•August 22, 2009 • Leave a Comment

Post 1 ( Panzer iv )

Post 2 ( SD KFz 251/17 Halftracks )

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This is post number Three  on my 2000 point Flames of War main army which is the German 2.SS Panzerdivision 

 

W98CABAS4LJCAPQ3QXLCA95NLDHCAPX24OCCA515GVACAD2JSJQCA7ZPJ6KCA8MEYSXCANKP5HUCADMBW6QCA4PEMJQCAZYOTJPCA6Q9XYUCAE443G0CABROM21CAAUY01TCAIB83S7CAC31HBRCAWT1IB4Sd Kfz 7/1 (2.0cm)

The Sd Kfz 7 (Mittlerer Zugkraftwagen 8t) was the main medium halftrack/tractor of the German Army. It was designed by Krauss-Maffei AG of Muenchen-Allach and was produced by Krauss-Maffei of Munich, Borgward of Bremen, Buessing-NAG of Berlin, Daimler-Benz of Berlin, and later by Saurer Werke AG of Vienna and Italian Breda.

Two of the variations on the basic model used during the war were the Sd Kfz 7/1 mounting the 2cm Flakvierling 38 (Quad 2cm) and the Sd Kfz 7/2 fitted with the 3.7cm FlaK 36.

Initially the 3.7cm FlaK 36 was mounted on the Sd Kfz 6 (5t) but when production of the 5-ton halftrack was ended it was decided to utilise the Sd Kfz 7 superstructure already in service as the Sd Kfz 7/1.

The 37mm gun could be traversed 360 degrees by hand and could be elevated from -8 to +85 degrees.

The crew consisted of seven men: a commander, five gunners and a driver.

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In Flames of War

The Sd Kfz 7/2 can be found as part of your divisional choices and as a can be a Weapon Platoon choice as part of some Panzer Kompanies.

The 3.7cm anti-aircraft gun has a range of 24”/60cm, a good ROF 4, AT 6 and Firepower 5+.and they are classed as fearless veterans

You can upgrade to armoured half tracks with front , side and top armour rating of 0 for +10 points per half track.

the current cost for one standard SD KFz 7/1 is 65 points

 So even if the enemy’s aircraft don’t turn up I’m sure you’ll find a use for them.

 

 

Blood Bowl

•August 18, 2009 • Leave a Comment

BloodBowl

 

Down at my local gaming club ( Essex Warhounds )we are starting to play Blood Bowl and the more experience blood bowl players have set up a league -which we are playing most Sunday nights just to mix up the normal games of 40k fantasy and FOW.

 I’m new to the game  of Blood Bowl  so I have downloaded a digital version of the game which has just come out – you can find the link here This  computer game uses the full current rules so I’m using  it as a playing aid and to be honest I’m having  fun .

I have this game on the PC and was lucky anougth to pick  up  a French version for my PSP which is also very good the last time i was in France ( France game but you can change to english using the  ingame options  on the menu page)

As I’m new I’m going to start with a standard bash -bash Orc team with a few goblin runners /Catchers and play a small league to see how the player’s progress

-I will post my team once I have fully play tested it  and are 100% confident of the rules  , I’m also thinking of building a full  scale blood bowl board using 6mm MDF and dug outs from Hurst molds   I will ofcourse update my site if i do decide to push on with this project.

below is a picture of a typical  Orc players  ( with upgraded gloves – shoulder guards – helmet )  from the PC game.

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anyway below is a short description of blood bowl and the general rules of the game  just to give out more information on this great game.

The Origin

Blood Bowl is an ultra violent team sport, based on the Warhammer fantasy world. Build up your team with Orcs, Elves, Dwarfs and many other fantasy creatures before jumping into the bloodiest arenas!
Blood Bowl was originally created by Jervis Johnson and Games Workshop in 1987. The board game, a parody of the Warhammer world and American Football, met with success in the 80s and the 90s. The world’s largest Tabletop Wargames company continues to sell the game’s miniatures today. Also, its creator never stopped improving and enriching Blood Bowl’s game system and universe with several rule changes.
Today, Blood Bowl remains very popular around the world thanks to a large community of players and numerous dedicated fansites. As for old Blood Bowl players, they have unforgettable memories of all the passionate games they used to play. Throughout the years, the original Blood Bowl game has earned a legendary status.

The Game

The game is a combination of a tactical game and a sports game The basics are extremely simple: two teams, one ball. The team that carries the ball into the opponent’s end zone scores a touchdown, the team with the most touchdowns at the end of the game is the winner. However, it’s how you decide to do this that makes things interesting, the ends justify the means! It’s not just the players you have at your disposal either. You can bribe the referee’s to look the other way as you cripple or trample annoying opponents and hire illegal wizards to give you a hand directly from the crowd… Blood Bowl severely tests the finest tacticians’ strategies
There are many races to accommodate every player’s profile and even more strategies for experimenting. Winning a game requires a strong game-sense and a lot of self-control.
For the player’s enjoyment, omnipresent humor and the use of spells, weapons, and other non-regulatory means place Blood Bowl outside of the classic sport simulation genre.

German Panzers

•July 25, 2009 • Leave a Comment

Panzers

panzer IV flames of warHaving the biggest and the best tanks is what the German army is known for. While it is easy to see how the Panther and Tiger tanks are designed to knock out fortified positions and other heavily armoured tanks, it is less obvious the roles the different Panzer variants play in a mixed force. Most of the time you will be limited to one type of panzer due to the year, but if you’re fighting in early 1944 (Festung Europa) then the decision becomes trickier. When it comes to Panzers the IV variant might be a waste of points depending on the role you want them to play.

Panzer IV

The panzer IV is the newer model of panzer available to the German forces. Its main gun has an anti-tank value of 11 making it well suited to punching holes in your enemy’s heavy armour. Since it only gets to shoot twice its best used to engage heavy armour. Leave the infantry and light tank fighting up to the older panzer models, they are better suited to it. Since this tank is very expensive you want to avoid taking losses at all costs. There is an excellent strategy article available talking about the panzer and how it fits into an army.

Panzer III M

The Panzer III M has a higher rate of fire than the Panzer IV and one less firepower. Even with the firepower reduction on average it performs better vs infantry in bulletproof cover and lightly armoured vehicles than the Panzer 4. Depending on your opponent taking some of these guys may be well worth it.

Panzer III H

This model has one less shot than the panzer 3 M but one more firepower and all of its other stats are the same. Unless you really need to save the 5 points, the panzer III M is a better all around tank. This panzer, on average, is worse at killing troops in bulletproof cover despite the better firepower value.

Conclusion

The Panzer IV is your all out heavy tank killer while the panzer III M is better able to handle light tanks and infantry. When devising a strategy make sure you’re using the right tool for the job, Panzer IV’s are wasted points going up against lightly armoured vehicles and infantry just as the Panzer III M will have many of its shots bounce off heavy armour.